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2/24/12
Original Poster
eeplox

"Matched third party content. Entity: rumblefish Content Type: Musical Composition", but no music in the video

I posted a video which is basically just me walking and talking, outdoors, away from any possible source of music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPBlfeuZuWg

And apparently youtube identified my video as containing copyrighted music from a company called rumblefish. I filed a dispute, and now I'm waiting for said company to respond to it. Is this a freak occurrence? I feel pretty violated by this, a mysterious entity claiming to own my content and apparently profiting from it with ads.

There are birds singing in the background in the video, could they own the rights to birdsong?
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markimatang
2/25/12
markimatang

Is this a freak occurrence?

NO! It is a very common occurrence. It is a well-known error. One person has had to file over 100 disputes for mistaken bird sounds. For some reason Google is reluctant to fix this so companies like rumblefish take advantage of it to gain fraudulent income (google makes something also).

Companies registering reference file with the CID are required to manually review any disputed video but rumblefish is one of many companies who just automatically confirm the content regardless of how ridiculous the match is.

Now then, when a dispute is filed advertisements are cancelled until the dispute is answered. There are advertisements on your video so before we go further I need to know the status of your dispute. Please post the notice found on your “Copyright Info” page. It might be something like These content owners have reviewed your video and confirmed their claims to some or all of its content: Entity: rumblefish Content Type: Sound Recording”

2/25/12
Original Poster
eeplox
Thanks for the help. This is what it says:

All content owners have reviewed your video and confirmed their claims to some or all of its content:

  • Entity: rumblefish Content Type: Musical Composition


markimatang
2/25/12
markimatang

Well then, that was a quick review (and confirmation). Most likely they don’t have a clue what’s in your video. Google gives them what was matched and where it occurred in you video but they obviously didn’t check. Google is finished at this point so your only recourse (short of a lawsuit) is to contact rumblefish and remind them of their error. Not surprisingly, they are usually quick to correct it.

The old rumblefish contact no longer works. I haven’t tried it but this is now given youtube...@rumblefish.com If that doesn’t go you could try Benj...@rumblefish.com  

Give them the URL to your video, state that you own all of the audio and video that it contains and ask them to release their claim. 

markimatang
2/25/12
markimatang
P.S. This illustrates a couple of my pet peeves about this process. Google hides the notification by only changing the wording on the notice but gives you no way to know that other than to check periodically. At least this was fast. I sometime have to check daily for weeks.
Oh, the second peeve, google hides the identity of the claimant by giving an abbreviated name and no contact information.
Bior
2/27/12
Bior
This is outrageous. Rumblefish should get punished for false copyright claims.
FormerGogleFan
2/27/12
FormerGogleFan
Google could do something about this, but they clearly don't care. That is evil.

markzmen101
2/27/12
markzmen101
Wow, these claimers are real terrorizing perpetrators. The bizarre thing is that someone would actually consider such self-centered egoism in respect of a law. Shows one how laws are to be twisted. SOPA lovers beware.
clevershark
2/27/12
clevershark
Google tips the balance towards the copyright claimants regardless of whether the claims are valid or not that I just won't post anything to Youtube anymore and instead have chosen an alternate video host who isn't so willing to throw its users under the bus. I did this as a result of a phony copyright claim by Formula One Management over footage of the Canadian Grand Prix which I captured myself, with my own equipment, and having paid for my own grandstand ticket.

With Google, money talks and the truth walks.
clevershark
2/27/12
clevershark
Incidentally it's difficult for me to imagine why Google and its subsidiaries are against SOPA as they have themselves fully adopted SOPA's "shoot first and ask questions never" attitude towards copyright claims no matter how dodgy they are...
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2/27/12
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