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3/7/13
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Bruce Foat

Site: search not finding all ads on Craigs List

I currently have 5 For Sale by Owner ads on Craigs List. Each of the ads has the following phrase "ALLB Thrift" without the quotes in order to identify them.
 
When I use the following site search using Google only one of the ads is found:
 
"ALLB Thrift" site:craigslist.org -"all thrift"
 
(The -"all thrift" argument is used to block some unwanted results.)
 
When I use the same search argument in Yahoo, DogPile, AltaVista, or Excite, it finds at least 4 of the ads.
 
Why is Google Site Search not finding all of my ads? I would much rather use Google Search than any of the others.
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Thomas P. - Top Contributor
3/7/13
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
Searching: [ ALLB Thrift site:craigslist.org -"all thrift" ]
Returns 1 result on Google, and 4 on Bing
 
 
Searching Google for [ Genuine Brother DR-250 Drum site:craigslist.org ]
 
I'll go ask around why that is.
Nathan RCT
3/7/13
Nathan RCT
It's not just you. Google has only been sporadically indexing any posts on craigslist over the past week or so. See these threads:
 
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!searchin/websearch/craigslist/websearch/KGbY7LYAeRE/lG50nbXm2uYJ
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!searchin/websearch/craigslist/websearch/Tn1a9apRc7s/Nhqcp7_kq7kJ
 
BTW: All those other search engines are powered by Bing (as well as Google in some cases I believe), which is why they all find your ads. Bing is still successfully indexing craigslist.
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
3/14/13
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
From what I've been able to gather, then it's not considered a bug, but an effect.
 
Google makes hundreds of changes to various corners of their systems & algorithms each year - and here, one or more changes have inflicted a change on how fast pages are getting indexed for the Craigslist site (amongst other sites; No specific sites has been explicitly targeted - it's all just consequential).
There's no reason to believe that Google couldn't afford paying their bill on their Internet connections, i.e. there's good reason to believe that there are other (and possibly more important sites & pages) that are getting pages added/updated/indexed quicker.
 
As to an immediate solution, then: My recommendation would be to use the search facilities offered by Craigslist.
- And if Craigslist's own search facilities doesn't provide what they should, then ... that'd be something to nag Craigslist about ;-)
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
3/14/13
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
biddersweet,
 
Searching w. Google for [ car -intitle:classifieds site:craigslist.org ] + filtering to see only past 24 hours.
New ads for the last 24 hours do not show up at all.
Correct: I'm seeing same as you.
 
Have you tried either using the search facilities offered by Craigslist, or gone nagging Craigslist for not providing adequate search facilities?
rcollamore
3/14/13
rcollamore
It's not an issue with Craigslist. They haven't changed their instructions for Googlebot. Meta tags and robot.txt file hasn't changed.
 
This is an issue with Google, confirmed by Craigslist
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
3/14/13
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
No secret there: Google makes change(s), having consequences.
The important key point is that Google does not consider the change(s) as having a bug, i.e. not an error - but (as always) with "room for improvement".
 
And the most important point: This issue you (and others) are having over this, requires you to take action - do/try something else/new.
rcollamore
3/14/13
rcollamore
You're not adding much value to the thread here. Assuming Google doesn't consider the change(s) a bug or error, but as "room for improvement" is your opinion. You have no evidence of this.
 
Craigslist didn't instruct Google to do this, therefore, what right does Google have to block Craigslist ads from approx 4am till 5pm, then index them again from 5pm till 4am, only to de-index all the ads. Only to repeat the process again.
 
The question is, if it's not a bug, why are they doing it when Craigslist hasn't made any changes?
 
How would you feel if your website data was suddenly de-indexed by Google? Of course, this would all be moot if Craigslist made a special arrangement with Google instructing Googlebot to behave a certain way.
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
3/14/13
Thomas P. - Top Contributor
biddersweet,
When I, in my first reply, said: "I'll go ask around why that is.", then I did in fact turn to Google (not the local bar).
No official public statement from Google is found anywhere, but the internal investigation(s) inside Google has (at least so far) not found any bugs (i.e. no idiot accidentally jacked a network cable in some datacenter).
The "room for improvement" is in quotation marks because it's a standard Google expression, and is not invented by me - nor is it really my personal opinion.
 
If you want my very own personal opinion on this, instead of just facts, then no problem: My own personal opinion is that something is wrong. Google has in the last couple of years gone down the path of tweaking their algorithms to rank "fresh" content higher. Given that stuff posted on craigslist generally has very limited & immediate timeframe of interest, then: I'd say that missing out on the latest addidtions & updates on Craigslist, smells a lot like an ooops to me.
 
That Google made a change, while Craigslist did not: Does it really matter: Does it matter if the raincloud came from the East or the West - if it's over you, then you're going to get wet, unless you act.
Nathan RCT
3/15/13
Nathan RCT
@Thomas P: I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding about what's actually going on. The issue is not just that Google has changed their algorithm and now craigslist indexing is taking a lower priority. While irritating, there would be nothing to definitively indicate that was a bug.
 
What's happening is, since Feb. 28, every day between about 5pm and midnight PST, Google indexes craigslist posts just like it used to, showing posts only minutes old. It appears to catch most new posts, just like it used to.
 
Then, at midnight, it *throws them all away*. Searching after midnight turns up none of the new posts found earlier in the day, and in fact nothing much back until this problem started in late February. Come 5pm, the cycle repeats. *That* is what makes this obviously a bug.
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Nathan RCT
3/27/13
Nathan RCT
If anyone's interested, I've posted a detailed report of the potentially related Google Custom Search problems here: http://productforums.google.com/d/msg/customsearch/N_yBniGiA2g/TXX6N2l5WBcJ
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