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6/4/10
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DJGreen1701

Why are results being censored?

I was under the impression that Google was unbiased - certainly their recent press indicates this. So why is it that a google search doesn't return the Lyor Cohen page on Encyclopedia Dramatica (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lyor_Cohen)? And why is it that questions regarding this matter have been deleted from your help forum?
I refer you to this question: http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=36605009ca4bca98&hl=en
The text of it can be found here: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mm5q4m&s=6
Or possibly still here: http://is.gd/cCGFT

Considering the Lyor Cohen's history, it certainly raises questions, especially considering Bing and Yahoo have also censored this page. Unless Google can come up with a decent explanation, this puts a black mark against them.
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djseebs
6/4/10
djseebs
A search for [ Lyor Cohen ] returns a Wikipedia article as the first result, as do most searches for people of this status. I would hope a more formal site would appear above satirical Wikis such as EncyclopediaDramatica.
6/4/10
Original Poster
DJGreen1701
Well, I would hope that the top sites would not be subject to value judgement, and should instead be based on algorithms, but that's beside the point. Google isn't putting it below other sites, they're censoring it. It doesn't appear in any searches.
djseebs
6/5/10
djseebs
Look, I hate getting dragged into these stupid Google conspiracy theories that pop up WAY too often on these boards. But let's consider exactly what you are suggesting:
"Three competing search engines have conspired together to censor a single satirical Wiki page." Let that sink in.

What is MORE likely going on here, is that these respective algorithms ARE actually doing their job, and have noticed that someone has been spamming links to this article throughout EncyclopediaDramatica. OR perhaps EncyclopediaDramatica simply has an issue with certain pages NOT being indexed correctly. OR perhaps the respective algorithms deem that particular page "offensive" and as such have filtered it from results due to violence, racism, or pornography.

But I'm probably wasting my breath. I'm sure none of these plausible explanations will have any sway with you, Green. Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are clearly working together in a dimly-lit underground Internet control center.
mooredc54
6/5/10
mooredc54
TROLL, TROLL, please go away ... find your publicity some other way.
6/5/10
Original Poster
DJGreen1701
Good job misrepresenting my position there - I'm not suggesting "Three competing search engines have conspired together to censor a single satirical Wiki page."

The spamming of the links to this article occoured AFTER the removal of the page from the search results - maybe you could be intellectually honest; if you've seen those links then you know that they're there BECAUSE of the page's removal.
If Google's algorithms deem that the only page in ED worthy of blocking, then Google needs to sort those algorithms out big time, because that's possibly the least offensive page on the entire website.
And an indexing problem? On one page only? That doesn't affect other search engines (For the record, Yahoo is now showing the result and Ask are now censoring it)? And that one page just happens to be an insulting page on a man famous for getting stuff removed from the internet?

The question isn't ARE Google censoring the page - it isn't showing up in their results. The question is WHY are they censoring the page? If they actually came out and gave an explanation, even a poor one, then I'd be happier - instead they've deleted a complaint about it. Now, they haven't deleted mine, or another that was posted, which makes me inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt - I just want them to actually give an explanation.

Uncle Jeezy
6/5/10
Uncle Jeezy
@DJGreen1701 Strange things are afoot here. This question did indeed disappear for a day or two but it's suddenly back  Strange days. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=36605009ca4bca98&hl=en
mooredc54
6/6/10
mooredc54
Elbobburrito
6/15/10
Elbobburrito
@mooredc54 Wow, you're such a helpful guy. You totally deserve your Top Contributor status.... That is, if you count making non relevant posts on any thing that is being serious and asking for help on a serious subject help, such as your little "Rick Roll" there.

mooredc54
6/15/10
mooredc54
Encyclopediadramatica is one Giant Rick Roll with a bit of Hate Speech thrown in, if people do not see the humor and irony of my post then they do not get the entire concept of encyclopediadramatica.  My post has much more taste than anything in encyclopediadramatica.
 
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