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11/25/13
Original Poster
Michael Wechsler

Re: Second time manual action

Hi there - without a URL there is little that anyone here can add directly other than brief hypothetical answers to a complex situation. Can you post the substance of the message you've received? Suffice it to say that if you had the benefits conveyed by those bad backlinks, it shouldn't be surprising to get hit with the penalties for having them. 3-6 months ago isn't "ages ago" and it doesn't matter how long ago bad spammy backlinks were built. For years you may have received the benefits to the detriment of others. Do not be surprised if Google may take stringent measures with regard to removal requirements. But again, without a URL this is all hypothetical speculation.
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11/25/13
Original Poster
Michael Wechsler
I'm unfortunately (or fortunately :) ) in a remote sunny location so I can't respond fully as I usually do. Your site was clearly doing a good amount of link building - I see drops from well over 100,000 backlinks from questionable spots. They may request you to continue taking down bad backlinks. I see many blogspot backlinks that are still there. 

In summary, Google may choose to put you in the penalty box any time they see evidence of rule breaking, such as unnatural links. Your admission of guilt doesn't get you a free pass. They don't seem to want to allow years worth of unjustified results with the offender simply walking away after being caught with nothing more than "sorry!" They may make you clean them up for as long as they feel justified that you should be made to deal with the mess created and from which you've gained. We've seen it before here that the larger offenders are usually made to clean up the most. So unfortunately, the answer is very likely that this manual action is not a Google error.
Lysis
11/25/13
Lysis
>> We recently hired a new SEO agency to work for us and last week they advised us to buy an high PR expired domain and put a "quality blog" on there and use it to make a link to our website. They told us that this was 100% whitehat (obviously it's not as we are now aware).

lol another fraud "whitehat" SEO strikes again.
Lysis
11/25/13
Lysis
>> I;m curious as to whether or not it would be harder to remove a second penalty 

lol well, you basically said "thanks for the penalty removal suckahhhhhhhs!" so.....
Sasch
11/25/13
Sasch
>>"lol well, you basically said "thanks for the penalty removal suckahhhhhhhs!" so....."

Yup, that's about what it boils down to. This one's going to be a total pig to lift; you might even want to think about just striking your tents from this camp altogether and starting again with a new one. Whatever you choose to do, though, I would strongly advise you to study the following documentation before you ever hire another White Hat SEO Eggspurt:

Cheers

Sasch
Ben  Griffiths
11/25/13
Ben Griffiths
Feel free to name the Expert who suggested this amazing strategy so we can all point and laugh and try to protect other honest businesses from their flimflam.

For any website it would be borderline suicidal, for one with a recent Manual Action for unnatural links... Just... wow.


Lysis
11/25/13
Lysis
prolly want to stop buying links off of Warrior Forum.
Lysis
11/25/13
Lysis
>> Feel free to name the Expert who suggested this amazing strategy so we can all point and laugh and try to protect other honest businesses from their flimflam.

I'm suspicious of that claim. He's been buying links off of warrior forum. "Penguin proof" links. Methinks he probably knows what he did and if he doesn't, then he should probably quit the IM industry and go bag groceries.
Ben  Griffiths
11/25/13
Ben Griffiths
Ah, yes, "SEO consultant" = "Warrior Forum", judging by the posting history.
11/25/13
Original Poster
Michael Wechsler
I have a friend and he did a reckless thing... What should I tell her to do?
Sasch
11/25/13
Sasch


Ben  Griffiths
11/25/13
Ben Griffiths
I can't visit without assuming it's run by this guy


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