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10/29/10
Original Poster
sargentkm

Sudden 70% Drop In Traffic to WP based site - Related to the Oct 22nd Issue?

I have read the FAQs and checked for similar issues: YES
My site's URL (web address) is: snipsly.com
Description (including timeline of any changes made):
 
Our site was founded over a year ago and features user generated content. We average 30,000 visits per day from Google, which account for about 80% of our traffic. Until 19th the site was doing well, and suddenly the traffic now dropped to around 3,500-8,000 visits per day. This happened all of a sudden when there was a related issue when Google stopped indexing the new pages (There are numerous threads currently running regarding that issue, but I thought I'd start my own because every situation is unique). Our new posts have begun being indexed again, but many of our older posts which were ranked #1 have dropped off the radar completely. We haven't made any drastic changes to the site recently.
 
Google staff member JohnMu suggested that perhaps it was due to the quality of some content on the site (sometimes not so great articles slip through the cracks), but it seems extremely coincidental to me that many many sites would be impacted by this Google glitch and the bots would start looking at our site differently at the exact same time. I'm hoping to get some insight, whether you were impacted by this issue and have/haven't seen changes, or know anything about what we may be able to do.
 
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10/29/10
Original Poster
sargentkm
Additionally, we're finding that other site that are illegally scraping our content (despite the fact that we've filed DMCA notices) are ranking on the first page, while our articles, which are the original unique content, are not ranking at all.
 
An example can be found with:
http://snipsly.com/2010/10/26/www-netflix-comgiftcard-netflix-giftcards-online-buyredeem-giftcards/ (original)

 

http://www.bollywoodnewsandgossips.com/www-netflix-comgiftcard-%E2%80%93-netflix-giftcards-online-%E2%80%93-buyredeem-giftcards-html (copied content)
 
This is just one small example, other longer articles are also being scraped from our site and the copying site is the one that's ranking well. Why is Google punishing us when the other site is the one creating duplicate content?
kimtaylor2010
10/29/10
kimtaylor2010
I am very curious to hear an answer to this post , our site did the exact same thing, we were ranking first and now not found at all on that i could see, and my competitors that use my name on their site are ranking on the first page now!
chowell18
10/29/10
chowell18
Seeing a very similar problem... (increased scraping, scrapers have higher authority, etc.). Read about a possible WordPress canonical tag problem and/or a "Google issue" that JohnMu said to just wait out. But seriously, how long is this estimated to take to work out?
Helablog
10/29/10
Helablog
You are not the only one Sargenkm...this problem all stemed from the Google crash that started on Oct 18th. It is a major problem felt across the board with no answer in sight.
 
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=7908355c3d1637e8&hl=en
 
Since then my site has stared indexing again, but traffic has plumitted to bellow 60%. I have asked John Mu about SERP in this post.
 
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=543b59634a9f5859&hl=en
 
As you can see he informs me that everything is normal. In fact it is not normal! You will probably get people posting responses to our problems with the same ol' 'concentrate on posting original content' this is not the case.
 
I wrote a post today on a subject, and not only does my site not show up when you type in relevant keywords, you get posts that were done in 2007 that have absolutely no relevance to the keywords
 
Google took a huge crap and no one, including John Mu has been able to answer why this has happened.
 
The way I see it is, once the problem arised, the quick fix for Google included putting all affected sites back in the 'sandbox' effectively reducing our SERP back to a brand new site.
 
John Mu, this is a huge problem, can you please look into it....thousands of people can't be wrong
Astrotheme
10/29/10
Astrotheme
My guess is something is indeed still wrong with Google. I am concerned, because one of my sites that publishes only original and high quality content is not being indexed quickly enough (if at all).....and I'm worried all these scrapers will just copy my post and publish it as their own, and then how will Google know the difference?
 
The word fiasco keeps coming to my mind. I wonder if some folks at Google pushed the wrong buttons while they were eating Twinkies?
parabolic
10/29/10
parabolic
We have also lost traffic of 15,000 uniques per day on over 75 keywords that we have dominated for over 3 years in 1st and top 3 rankings.
 
In fact many we have held number 1 spot and never moved for the last 3 years. All original content and we provide a very popular social network that users seek out.
 
I have daily ranking reports for the last 5 years and what it looks like is that Google has rolled back to a date some 2 years ago or more.
 
For many rankings it looks like Google has simple rolled the clock back but gone too far past where their original problem point.
 
Likewise I have found that scraper sites who have harvested sections of our site to try and make use of sites services are ranking higher than our genuine and original contented site.
10/29/10
Original Poster
sargentkm
*bumping to try to get some sort of a response from Google...
squibble
10/29/10
squibble

Here are some random pages from your site I saw >

http://snipsly.com/2010/06/27/england-vs-germany-watch-england-vs-germany-live-stream-england-vs-germany-online-england-vs-germany-live-where-england-vs-germany/

http://snipsly.com/2010/10/16/wach-france-vs-ireland-live-stream-alitalia-european-cup-2010-on-rugby-internet-tv/

http://snipsly.com/2010/06/27/live-fifa-world-cup-2010-south-africa-where-to-watch-germany-vs-england-what-is-best-site/

When Johnmu suggested that "perhaps it was due to the quality of some content on the site" I dont think he said that lightly.

Work on your site to present the best quality content to suit the queries you are hoping to return for.

10/30/10
Original Poster
sargentkm
@Squibble, Thank you for your response. As I told JohnMu, I am aware that there are some pages that have slipped through the cracks and we are continually working to remove the junk-content. However, that still doesn't explain 1. Why we have continually been ranked highly by Google for the past year and only recently experienced an extremely severe drop in traffic, if, as JohnMU explained, there had not been a drastic change in algorithim 2. Why it coincided exactly with the problems other Wordpress based sites experienced (and looking at the responses to this thread, people are still experiencing) and 3. (most importantly) why other sites that are scraping our users' content from our site, even including not-so-great posts like the ones that you listed, are ranking one the first page for search terms while our posts have dropped.
squibble
10/30/10
squibble

Google changes,it has updated the view of your site.

You do have duff, no value content on the site.

Come back and query your rankings when you have a 100% site worth ranking.

Until then - what are you querying ? "Why does my rubbish not rank - what has happened in google ?"

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WendyPiersall
11/7/10
WendyPiersall
PS - this started on October 22, 2010.
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