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2/1/15
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Tommy Chambers

Is the meta refresh set for 0 delay acceptable to use for site transfer in 2015

I've read the FAQs and searched the help center. 
I am seeing some folks using the Meta Refresh as a method to do site transfers by setting the delay to 0.
Is this still allowed.. I know in the past it has been accepted.. can anyone comment of its use.

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2/1/15
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Rotary Steve
Tommy,

Hi, you can do the meta refresh, but you will not help the new site at all.  The proper way to move traffic is with a 301 permanent redirection.  Will need more info to help with what you are trying to do, but just dunno why/what you are hoping to accomplish.

Steve
2/1/15
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Michael Wechsler
Agreed with Steve. Please see all of the following Google docs as well so you can familiarize yourself with the moving process.


2/1/15
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Tommy Chambers
Thanks Steve and Blackbelt... I am fully aware of the best methods of site transfer as I do 3-4 per month with some exceeding 300,000 indexed..
But the question was is the Meta refresh set for 0 delay an acceptable method of doing a site transfer.. you can find thousands of articles suggesting that if the meta is set for 0 google will assume its a 301 transfer... (forget the best practices - question is will google or not accetp that as a 301).
Here is a short shot of John MU commenting of this very question and he is clearly against doing a meta for site transfer.. but what I am trying to clarify is if its legal or not (irrelevant to whether its best or not)... John is it possible you could update your thoughts on this in 2015 since that is an old comment back in 2010. 
thanks.. Don't get me wrong .. I think you would have to be mad.. to trust google to pick up a 0 delay as a 301...Wow!  But again is it approved by google or not?
Its all over the web... some say yes some say no...but no one thinks its a good idea..
Steve... I just noticed your comment "I can do it but will not help my new site.."  if that is true then its not an approved method since if what I  am hearing is true go and google will accept a Meta 0 delay as a 301 then in fact it would help my site.. since I would be transferring with a 301.. permanent transfer.. and so if they will not accept this under any conditions... then it is not approved by google... Lot of confusion out there on this subject.


2/1/15
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Michael Wechsler
Google MAY assume it's a 301. Yes, I'm aware of JohnMu commenting on the question and he says what he means. :)  It is possible that Google might interpret such as a 301 redirect equivalent but under no circumstances am I aware that John or anyone else at Google says that it will recognize it as such. I doubt that will occur as well because there are reasons not to assume that a mere meta refresh is automatically a 301 and nor should it be. And given that it's easy enough to do a proper 301, I would take the message for exactly what it means - it might work but don't ever rely on it or expect there to be an endorsement that it's the equivalent.


On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 1:37:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy Chambers wrote:
Thanks Steve and Blackbelt... I am fully aware of the best methods of site transfer as I do 3-4 per month with some exceeding 300,000 indexed..
But the question was is the Meta refresh set for 0 delay an acceptable method of doing a site transfer.. you can find thousands of articles suggesting that if the meta is set for 0 google will assume its a 301 transfer... (forget the best practices - question is will google or not accetp that as a 301).
Here is a short shot of John MU commenting of this very question and he is clearly against doing a meta for site transfer.. but what I am trying to clarify is if its legal or not (irrelevant to whether its best or not)... John is it possible you could update your thoughts on this in 2015 since that is an old comment back in 2010. 
thanks.. Don't get me wrong .. I think you would have to be mad.. to trust google to pick up a 0 delay as a 301...Wow!  But again is it approved by google or not?
Its all over the web... some say yes some say no...but no one thinks its a good idea..
Steve... I just noticed your comment "I can do it but will not help my new site.."  if that is true then its not an approved method since if what I  am hearing is true go and google will accept a Meta 0 delay as a 301 then in fact it would help my site.. since I would be transferring with a 301.. permanent transfer.. and so if they will not accept this under any conditions... then it is not approved by google... Lot of confusion out there on this subject.


2/1/15
Original Poster
Tommy Chambers
http://screencast.com/t/OuI5P4uLx
Just came across John's comment..again..

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2/6/15
JohnMu
It's been a while since that quoted reply, thanks for the great replies so far! I'd just like to nail the current feedback down:

- I'd strongly discourage from using a meta-refresh-type redirect for moving a site. If at all possible, use a 301 redirect. For example, you can't use the change-of-address tool if you don't use a 301 redirect. The W3C has also been discouraging meta-refresh-type redirects since over a decade ( http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-CORE-TECHS/#auto-page-refresh ). 

- If this is the only thing you can do, then it's better than nothing. We realize that something things just aren't easy everywhere, and our systems have to deal with that appropriately.

- Make sure to follow the rest of our site-move guidelines ( https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/6033049 ), in particular don't block the old URLs via robots.txt and make sure the "redirects" are on a per-URL basis (don't redirect all old URLs to the new homepage, but rather to their new URLs). 

Cheers
John
 
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