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16. Dez. 2020

submit the two sitemaps you prepared previously containing the old and new urls

Hello,

I am preparing to move a site from .com to .org

  • "On the old site, submit the two sitemaps you prepared previously containing the old and new URLs.This helps our crawlers discover the redirects from the old URLs to the new URLs, and facilitates the site move."

However, if you do a search for this phrase "On the old site, submit the two sitemaps you prepared previously" you get several even fairly recent support inquiries that state:
  • "On the destination site, submit the two sitemaps you prepared previously containing the old and new URLs. This helps our crawlers discover the redirects from the old URLs to the new URLs, and facilitates the site move."

So which is it....the OLD site, the NEW site or BOTH sites?  I'm assuming I should do the former since that is what is listed in Google's own documentation.  But can somebody clarify this?  And also, where do I see documentation of exactly how to submit the TWO sitemaps and in what format so that it knows about the 301 redirects to the destination site?

Thanks for the help!
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16. Dez. 2020
Well you dont need to submit any sitemap on the old domain, if there is already a sitemap. Meaning Google has already discovered the URLs anyway. 
 
But if do create a sitemap, its a list of the now redirecting URLs. Ideally with lastmod, of when the URL become a redirect. Ie modified. Submitted in the OLD property. 
 
 
 
You can then submit the list of all the pages in the new domain, in the new property. In effect of the list all the pages in the site. Again don't really need a dedicated sitemap if the new site has a sitemap already. 
 
 
So in short: submit the sitemap listing old urls, in the old property. And the sitemap containing the new urls in the new property. 
 
16. Dez. 2020
As another point, wouldnt consider these stiemaps particully important. 
 
Far more important is creating the redirects. Its just having compiled a list of pages (to create the redirects), its relatively easy to create sitemaps. 
 
A sitemap of the OLD urls is not that important, because the urls are already discovered, and indexed, in which case Google will retry recrawling in time anyway, and will at that point find the redirect. 
... there is no benefit to crawl the URLs it hasnt already discovered, as it will find them to be redirects right from start, so its all just a waste of effort. 
 
 
And it doesnt need the sitemap for the new site. It will be finding the new urls as it crawls the redirects (gets the URL from the destination of the redirct!) and it also will be crawling the new site directly anyway, finding links as it goes. But sitemap doesnt harm either. 
 
 
 
 
16. Dez. 2020
Thank you for the replies, I appreciate it.

But why does Google's OWN documentation state in #5 (here: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/crawling/site-move-with-url-changes?ref_topic=6033084#start-site-move ) "On the old site, submit the two sitemaps you prepared previously containing the old and new URLs."

And that's confusing as how would you submit both old AND new URLSs as sitemaps in the old site?  I don't understand how that would be done, and the link in that #5 just loops back to the same documentation page!!

Looks like some Google documentation needs some updating.
16. Dez. 2020
YEs, the way the documentation is worded is confusing. 
 
Can use the 'Send Feedback' on the article itself, to feed back to Google. 
16. Dez. 2020
Yep, done!  Thanks.
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