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Dana Gurnee
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Yes. I can't manage to drag folders. All I can do is

(a) open a folder (in the WLM program) I want to copy to Gmail

(b) click on the first e-mail in the list

(c) click Ctrl-A, to highlight all the e-mails

(d) click Copy To (at the top of the WLM program, on one of its tabs)

(e) select a folder in WLM's list of folders in Gmail

(f) wait for the copying to occur; this may take minutes, especially if large attachments are involved

(g) go to Gmail, find that Gmail folder used in step (e); possibly I will need to refresh and wait for all e-mails to arrive; note that the number may not match what came from WLM, if exact duplicates were in the WLM folder (Gmail deletes exact dupes)

(h) select all e-mails in the folder (tricky if the number of e-mails exceeds the maximum number that a list can contain

(i) click Labels

(j) click the name of the label that I want, which may involve creating a new label and might involve unselecting the label of the current Gmail folder

One thing I have found is that when I look at an e-mail in a Gmail list, I cannot find a way to go to the next e-mail from the current e-mail. It seems that I must go back to the list. Yikes!
But what about getting WLM folders to generate Gmail labels?

For example, I have a friend named Larry. For him I have 17 folders of emails by year from 2003, filled with hundreds of emails he send and hundreds of emails that I sent.

What I am doing is this:

1. In Gmail, I make labels for these 17 folders: Larry 2003, Larry 2004, etc.

2. When I go to WLM and point it to my Gmail account, I see the 17 Gmail labels looking like folders.

3. Then in WLM, I open Larry 2003 so that its list of emails shows.

4. I click to Select All.

5. I open the Gmail Larry 2003 "folder."

6. I click Paste.

7. When I go to Gmail, I see the familiar Inbox list, with a higher number of unread mails that matches the number of pastes in WLM.

8. When I search the Gmail Inbox for "From Larry 2003," I will see the list that I just saw in WLM.

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I have hundreds of folders, so this procedure will take time.

I do not see a way to copy entire folders "from above," nor do I know how else to get Gmail labels that match WLM folders.

But I think what I have will work.

I'll be pleased to hear of a speedier way!

I am SO grateful for the IMAP suggestion. It's almost psychotic what a relief and joy it is to think that I can save all that WLM mail in a way that is safe and that won't be mangled by Windows 10.
Well, of course, it's a bit nastier than I indicated. In Gmail you got labels, not folders. So I guess you gotta go through some more gymnastics. I figure it will take me a couple of weeks to this.
Yes. I was able to move a few e-mails from WLM to Gmail after setting up a Gmail account in WLM, using WLM settings. The procedure was nasty and will be nasty going forward, but it can be done.

I won't go into detail. I think Rick can probably hack through it once IMAP is set up -- AND AND AND once Gmail is set up so that nonsecure third-party apps are allowed to access one's Google account.

I don't think moving folders will work for me. It will be a matter, I think, of (a) establishing destination folders in Gmail at gmail.com, then (b) copying a few dozen messages at a time from WLM folders to the Gmail folders.

It's the usual nasty nasty Windows nastiness, but nothing new to veterans, ONCE the IMAP nastiness is effected.
Rick: Have you discovered anything?

I'm having this issue, too, and I can't believe there isn't more "cleverness" in this regard from Google.

I have 15 years' worth of mail in WLM, with hundreds of folders. I think WLM is a fine program. But, as you know, it's not native to Windows 10. I figured out a way to install WLM with W10, but almost immediately, W10 basically destroyed WLM during W10 updates.

I did manage to install Mailbird in my W7 and to import all the older WLM folders into Mailbird. Mailbird works much like WLM, but it is extremely clunky in many regards, and has been for more than a year, despite my frequent attempts to persuade its people to make obvious improvements.

Plus Mailbird stores all emails in one giant folder, on my hard drive, which frightens me much. Then, attachments are stored as separate files.

I don't think Mailbird will last for more than a few years. It's old-fashioned in the sense that it stores e-mail locally, so I'm not sure young users will find it comfortable.

A while ago today, I uploaded one of my many WLM folders from its location on the C drive to my Google drive. But the e-mails inside can be opened only with an app that requires me to disable ad blocking. And the list of e-mails is merely the list of dot-eml files that you would see in the C-drive directory. And inside the e-mail itself, at least with my reading of 10 of them, I don't always see the dates, though most of the time I do see dates.

I suppose I could move all my WLM e-mails back to their original POP3 server, but I'm not sure the dates would survive. Plus, because I put copies of my sent mail into folders with received mail, I don't know how that would work.

I'm surprised how difficult it is for people to grasp what you're seeking! I keep thinking that there's a way. I would be happy enough to have a WLM in W10 that I never used online, but I know that W10 once ate my WLM. A couple of years ago, but I bet it would happen again.

I'm still using W7, but know I have to move on.
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