Dec 5, 2024

Obfuscation lies and misdirection. And all I wanted was some phones and cell phone service.

I wanted to switch to Google fi, with four lines. They had some really good promos, 250 each for the pixel 9 pro xl and totally free for the pixel 9 after instant discounts and bulk credits. So on Sunday, Dec 1st, I decided to go ahead and do it.  I ended up accidentally starting the application while logged I to my roommates account. Then (I guess fortunately, because it prevented me from signing up on my roommates Gmail account.) the browser crashed and when I tried to continue, it made me reenter everything but then gave an error on the financing of "You're already in our system and have applied for credit using a different account. If this isn't the case call is at 1844-TALK-2-FI". I was on the phone 8 hours and made 6 calls trying to figure it out and get the financing to work because it was giving me an error that I had applied for financing under a (as of that point unknown) other email account  Every rep said gave me the same useless spiel about uninstalling reinstalling and telling me to call Experian. When I asked them what exactly I was supposed to ask Experian up do, they tried to tell me that Experian was their "lending partner" and they were responsible for approving the financing. This is either a blatant misunderstanding of an outright lie. I think it's actually Synchrony, but regardless, Experian simply provides a credit report and they only thing they can do I remove or correct inaccurate information. I have no reason to think Experian did not provide an accurate report of my credit and it's accompanying FICO score of 830. At then end of it all, after wasting my time. I FINALLY got to a rep that seemed to know what was going on and told me that I had to wait 30 days. That makes sense. The reports clearly have to expire after some time period. I believe him and appreciate that he actually figured it out. But there should be a way to fix this. It simply should not be this hard for me to give a company my money in exchange for a service. 

  But now, knowing that there was no practical fix, I decided to bite the bullet and pay 2400 dollars up front for the phones, because Id at least get most of it back in bill credits and the service after the credits would be 20 a month. Good enough. So I bought four phones and charged 2400 dollars to my chase card. 

As I said, it should not be this hard. But as the Stoics teach, worry about what you can control, not what you can't. It simply is. After the worst customer service I ever have had, and after I was clearly lied to, I was finally told "we can't help you. But you can just go ahead and give us nearly 2500 dollars instead". At least it was the worst customer service up to that point in my life. In the following hours and days, I would be shown what poor customer service REALLY WAS. Not knowing what was to come, I foolishly decided, "what the heck, I'll go ahead and do it".
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Dec 5, 2024
But unfortunately,t he runaround that Google gave me was too long for a single post.

At about 12:30am Dec 3rd, I looked at my phone and there were emails from Google that had been sent Dec 2nd at 11:58pm. 

"Due to suspicious activity, we’ve suspended your payments profile.
To reinstate your account, go to your account and take the actions requested.
For more information, visit the Google payments verification help page."

That's annoying, but easy enough to take care of. I immediately followed the link and Google sent a response that said:

"Thank you for resolving the issues on your Google Account. You can now make purchases or use services on Google."

All fixed ... Except it wasn't. NEXT email that had gone through only 7 minutes later at 12:05am on Dec 3rd. 

"Order has been canceled
Hi michael Michalski,
To get help with your order, contact us or call us at xxx-xxx-xxxx.
– Google Fi Wireless team" (ironically, it won't let you post the google support number,it calls it personal information)

Well that's REALLY annoying. They didn't give any time to correct it before it canceled. I went up to the website to see if I could just reorder it. It would be nice however if they would delay canceling for 24 hours and just put it on hold so you could fix it. The problem was, it then showed the full price of 1099 for two of the phones and 799 for the other two. That's 3800 dollars. 

So I called Google... Again. That should get it fixed, right. After all, that's what the email said to do. I spoke with a total of 5 reps and taking about 4 hours of my time. Each rep went through the same useless script. They told me a bunch of stuff about having to call Chase to figure out what was going on. There was NOTHING going on with Chase. The card was fine. When chase rejects a charge for a security reason, it sends me a text. But I did in fact call chase and verify that such a thing never happened. The had 500 dollars on it and an 8000 dollar limit. I even verified that I could now order the phone at full price ,actually ordering it accidentally and having to cancel it. Id already fixed the credit card issue. They gave the same spiel about trying a different computer and resetting the FI app and using a private browsing window. That obviously was pointless because any browser that logs in takes you to exactly where you left off. Finally they said Id have to reorder it. I kept trying to explain, we KNOW what the problem is. The problem is that im now in the system as having Google FI and the promo is setup to apply to new customers. Except now I have an account but no phones to use it with. 

With each rep. I eventually got through all the useless stuff and got them to understand what was going on. At that point they would ask me to wait while they checked into it.

The first rep hung up on me at that point.

The second rep hung up on me before that point when I explained that the website would not let me reorder with the promotional pricing.

The third rep hung up on me at the same point as the first. (I guess if you want to be the "glass half full" sort, they didn't waste any more of my time. 

The fourth rep actually came back and explained that it was caused by a technical problem on their end and that they would have to send it to the "Promotions team" they had me send them screen shots of what my phone currently showed. 





I had not heard anything back by 4pm Dec 3rd (the following afternoon) so I called back. 

The fifth rep had me go through the normal useless stuff, tried to talk me into using a different credit card. (Why, it was already supposedly fixed) Then finally checked and said that he saw in the account that it was sent to the Promotions Team and that they should get back to me within 24-48 hours of my call the previous night. He said that he would keep the case open and emailed me and told me that if I had nor heard back by the afternoon the next day I should email him. (Ok, I get that he has to start with the useless script. It's not his fault. It's Googles. He was doing his best and I appreciate that. I'm irritated with Google. Not him. I'm sure he's just as frustrated as I am with how they run things)
At about 1:30 am on Dec 4th I received another email. It asked me to send them exactly what promotions I had been trying to get. Great. Sounds like they are making progress. Once they know that, they can fix this and it's all good, right? So I went to the fi website with Firefox on an "in private" browsing window and captured screen shots of the promotions and sent them. 

At around 12pm on Dec 4th (noon) I noticed another email from Google, set at 4:42am on Dec 4th:

"Due to suspicious activity, we’ve suspended your payments profile.
To reinstate your account, go to your account and take the actions requested.
You’ll need to upload: 
An image or scan of the payment method or a statement to confirm ownership

A scan of a government-issued photo ID that matches the billing name

For more information, visit the Google payments verification help page."

Ok,this getting absurd, but even though I really don't like giving out scans of those things, I went ahead and uploaded them anyway. I received a reply:


"Please wait while we review your submission. As a precautionary health measure for our support specialists in light of COVID-19, we are operating with a limited team. Please expect a delay in response. We apologize for the inconvenience. We will notify you by email as soon as we have a decision regarding the reinstatement of your ability to make purchases.

Do not create new Google accounts to make purchases while the review process is in progress, as they may also be suspended.

The personal information you submitted will be added to your payments profile. It will be stored securely and treated in accordance with the Google Privacy Policy Google Privacy Policy and where applicable, the Google Payments Privacy Notice.

Thank you,
Google Support Team"

Seriously?! COVID? Have they not updated this in 4 years? But ok. It's in the pipeline. 


So it should all be fixed now. Right? Well, that would be too easy. At 2:49pm Dec 4th I received the following email.



"Hi Michael,
Thanks for writing in!
The order was canceled due to insufficient funds in the payment method provided. Unfortunately, once an order is canceled, the associated promotion is no longer valid. You can't reorder the same device and same promotion. I apologize.
Please let us know if you have any further questions.
Thank you for your understanding and for being a valued Google Fi customer.
If you have any further concerns and questions, please reply to this email or contact us over CHAT or PHONE (1-844-Talk2Fi). We're here to support you 24/7.
Thanks,
Lady Veitemae
Google Fi Support"

No, the order was NOT canceled due to insufficient funds. We have already figured out what happened. We KNOW why the order was canceled. It was canceled because there was a security freeze on my payment account. That has been corrected. And then it put ANOTHER security hold on my account. Which I then uploaded documents to correct as Google requested. So that's been corrected. This is at best an error and at worst a blatant lie. After several days of providing more and more personally identifiable information to them and a hard pull on my credit report providing Google with even MORE PII, they give me a completely and utterly made up excuse to blow me off. 


And seriously 

"Thank you for your understanding and for being a valued Google Fi customer." 

Are you kidding me?
  -You have wasted over 12 hours of my time. 
  -You have conned me out of personal information which is in fact what Google sells for money. 
 -You put a hard inquiry on my credit report which isn't that big of a deal. (it causes a one point drop in my 830 credit score? Oh well) But is annoying. 
  -You lied to me and assured me that this would be fixed.
  -You made up man excuse that is absolutely 100% a willful lie. (Because we KNOW why it canceled.)
 -And most importantly, I don't actually have any phones to USE with Google FI even if I wanted to.

And on top of that you act as if you are doing ME a favor by taking $2500 dollars of my money and signing me up for a monthly recurring subscription. How by any stretch of the imagination would anyone think that I'm going to be a Google Fi customer. Even if I wanted to. I couldn't. Because the whole issue at hand is, you canceled to order for my phones, and refuse to fix it. 

 
Dec 6, 2024
After about a dozen calls and countless hours they managed to reset things so I can actually sign up and if looks like try fixed my the payment account. But they pulled a bait and switch and are trying to charge me another 200 dollars because they changed the promotion. I expect then to fix this. Otherwise I will just send the (used) phones back and it will both cost them a sale shipping both ways and the liss in value of the then used phones. Honestly, I don't know how they even stay in business like this. If I wasn't so stubborn I'd just give up and be er to business with them again. 
Dec 14, 2024
I have similar documented experience with some of the same support reps you've interacted with here as well 

Look me up and reach out to me. Let's make a plan to gather others and do mass arbitration.
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