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12/27/19
Channel hit with a strike, appeal rejected despite being cleared in the past. 0 Recommended Answers 334 Replies 162 Upvotes
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Don't know if Youtube has an algorithm dealing with reports or what it is, but the system makes no sense. A few of my videos have been reported (bogus reports probably made by competitors) in the past and when/if the appeal was rejected, I turned to Youtube's trusted flaggers for help. This always led to the videos being reinstated since there is nothing in violation of the policy. If there was, ALL videos in the gambling category of videos would be removed and obviously there is no ban on gambling videos on Youtube. Youtube seems to think my links are affiliate links, but they are not. These are links to my personal website. Same as probably hundreds of thousands of other gambling videos on Youtube. So what's left to do now when Youtube have removed the trust flaggers? Just accept that I have just had one of my appeals wrongly rejected? :(
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12/28/19
Hi. I don't use a link-shortener. The videos are all highlights of online slots. Basically just big wins. A recording of a virtual slot machine. It's impossible trying to figure out what the violation is because these strikes are so unpredictable. All my videos are the same, follow the same structure. No external links to any gambling sites, only to my own website. I use a disclaimer, 18+, gamble responsibly in all my videos. No foul language or speech at all. Yet, one video appears to be chosen randomly to receive a strike and then nothing for a few months, and then suddenly out of the blue another one. I know some of the biggest channels in the gambling category and have talked to them. Some of these channels have no problems at all, whilst others get pushed around by Youtube on a weekly basis. Again, it doesn't make any sense because these are all slots videos of more or less the same slot machines. There are even big casino streamers who have affiliate links in their description and get away with it month after month.

If gambling is the problem, then surely Youtube would ban and close all these channels but that doesnt seem to be the case. Instead they go after some channels randomly it seems. Again, makes no sense at all.

My theory is that groups of people organize to report these videos, or possibly competitors, and that the people at Youtube are not really bothering to look into the matter. It's easier to just reject an appeal. Back when I could get help from the trusted flaggers, the videos were always reinstated so that would suggest there was indeed nothing wrong with the videos. If the video was rightfully removed, then all gambling videos on Youtube should be removed because my video is no different to all the other hundreds of thousands of slots videos out there.
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12/28/19
For some reason, which has not been communicated to me, the video has now been reinstated and the strike has been changed to a warning instead. While happy, I also feel a bit confused. Moreover, it now says that "You're only warned once and this warning will remain on your channel." What exactly does this mean? I tried to find some information about warnings but couldn't find much. A strike is not a good thing to get obviously, but if a warning never goes away what does that mean for my channel?
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12/28/19
Hi, there is a full help page explaining the warning and strike system here

A warning is issued for your first minor content violation, and is designed to prevent people losing channel privileges for a simple violation that they may not have fully understood. Like the e-mail said, you only get one warning, so the second occurrence of a minor violation will go straight to strike 1 next time.
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12/28/19
Hi Mr J 8711. Thank you for explaining the system. It is very much appreciated and very helpful indeed. Wishing you a nice day.
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12/28/19
Hi JDoors and thank you for taking interest in my case. Nothing has been communicated to me whatsoever so I'm left as clueless as before. Since the video has been reinstated, does that mean the video is ok after all. If so, why a warning? It's a bit of a catch 22 at this point.

It's interesting you mention "bots" because I noticed around 20+ subs have been lost from my channel. My guess is that Youtube cleaned it up? I do get a lot of spammers trying to spam their Russian casino links in my comment section and I usually remove them or report them. Could this be the issue? Maybe Youtube believes it's me spamming casino affiliate links in the comment section when in fact it is not. If that is the case, it would be a super easy way for competitors to try to shut down each others channels :/
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12/28/19
I've noticed the same thing. Some casino streamers have loads of affiliate links everywhere they possibly can fit them, both in the description and as a sticky posts in the comment section and they run fine without any trouble from Youtube (these are big streamers too so unlikely it goes unnoticed). Others (like myself) have removed them as a safety measure having been issued a strike. It's extremely frustrating and confusing because Youtube is not communicating at all so everyone is left second guessing. How are we supposed to know what is right or wrong when it's all so very inconsistent.

My slots videos are nothing out of the ordinary, just plain highlights of slot wins (recorded on my computer with OBS player). That's why it's so strange why this particular video would be singled out and issued a strike.

What is even more confusing now is that they actually removed the strike, reinstated the video and settled with a warning instead. So what am I to think now? They video was ok after all since it's reinstated? If so, why do I get a warning? On the other hand, if the video is not ok, why only settle with a warning while also reinstating it? I have no idea what's going on. At the time of writing I am making a backup of all my Youtube videos in case they decide to do something much worse. I simply cannot trust Youtube with my work anymore.
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Can you share screenshots of the strikes, as well as the link to the stricken videos?
 
It would be helpful if you posted description text.
 
And finally, if there are links to other videos that were re-approved after review, then please provide those as well.
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12/30/19
Hi Andrew S and thank you so much for taking interest in my case. It is very much appreciated.

I have added a screenshot of my Channel violations screen blow:

The "Big Bot Crew" video was removed long time ago. I still don't really know why. I did appeal it back at the time but was rejected. For some reason the appeal button is still available now. However, I have not bothered to appeal it again. The only thing I can think of is that I used to have affiliate links in the description back then (removed from all my videos since then), but when I look at some of the biggest channels in the casino streaming community, many of them continue to include affiliate links with no problems, so I'm not sure that is really the issue. It's highly unlikely that it would go unnoticed by Youtube since their channels are massive compared to mine (40k+ subs). It almost appears as if those channels have been "white listed" by Youtube.

As already explained here, my video was reinstated in spite of my appeal having been rejected at first and the strike was turned into a warning instead. Happy about it, of course, but also confused.

Unfortunately, I cannot remember which other videos that were re-approved by Youtube in the past. I probably had 2-3 strikes all in all during a short period of time (as many other channels in the casino section at that time) but all strikes were dropped and all videos reinstated thanks to the help of trusted flaggers. There was really nothing unusual about those videos. Same type of browser recordings of online slot wins like the rest of my videos.

I know many of the people running these sort of casino channels and this issue with the strikes have been debated for quite a long time now within the casino community as these strikes have been so confusing and inconsistent. While some seem to fly under the radar and have no issues at all, others receive strikes on a regular basis. No one really knows what the problem is or what they're doing wrong.

Thank you for looking into the matter.
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You cannot remember the other videos  which were re-approved by YouTube in the past, even though you would have had to specifically identify them to the trusted flaggers?

Well, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it's your loss...

I wouldn't say the affiliate links themselves matter that much, so much as linking to online gambling or casinos by themselves would be prohibited under the Sale of Illegal or Regulated Goods community guideline: ( https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9229611 )

So I'm trying to understand from previous cases which cases you appealed successfully (with or without assistance of trusted flaggers). If you cannot provide detail on that, then I can't help.
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Article published on Bigwinboard regarding the current issue https://www.bigwinboard.com/selected-gambling-channels-appear-immune-to-youtubes-policies
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