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7/27/17
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Rekrul

So Flash is dead now? When will YouTube fix the HTML5 quality settings?

So I assume that Flash has been removed and everyone is now forced to use HTML5?

Up until just a a short while ago, Flash was working fine. I had deactivated Webm in Firefox's settings and YouTube would switch to Flash. Now it just sits there on the error message telling me it can't play the video.

I wouldn't mind using HTML5 if YouTube would fix the damn quality selection options. It tells me that I can't play anything higher than 360p, even though I regularly viewed 720p with Flash.

This problem happens even if I view the site with a recent version of Palemoon, which is basically Firefox, and which should be able to play the files with no problem. I assume this is because I have an older system with Windows XP and rather than just doing the most intelligent thing and letting people pick what format they want, the programmers over-complicated things by trying to guess the quality options automatically. Yeah, don't give the peasants the freedom to choose, tell them what's best for them.

So I guess from now on I'll be DOWNLOADING all the videos I want to watch. Is that the outcome YouTube was hoping to encourage?


You know, for every step forward that YouTube takes, it takes two huge jumps backwards. Their programmers keep going out of their way to complicate things that should be problem-free.

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Dermacrosis
7/27/17
Dermacrosis
Even Adobe is killing it, it will stop being supported in 2020 by the company that makes it. Therefroe even if they did give the people a choice, not that I have seen such choices offered elsewhere, you still hit the wall of 2020.

I have no problems with the quality. That does not mean you don't have a problem, but that it is not affecting everyone. Therefore it could take time to trace the cause of yours. Saying something is "basically X" does not mean it is "X", minor changes can have a large impact.

Admitting you will be breaking YTs rules on a YT support forum is not a good idea, it is a quick way to get a ban slapped on you however.
Richard Gates
7/27/17
Richard Gates
How do we know this isn't a temporary bug? It just happened and just because Flash is being dropped in the future doesn't mean YT is dropping support for it today, that's a ridiculous assumption. All the videos are already in Flash format.
Richard Gates
7/27/17
Richard Gates
It still works fine from G+ and I'm getting at least 720...

GET /videoplayback?c=web&clen=840828559&cpn=bziCaJXdKY0KCJLr&cver=as3&dur=6516.266&ei=7195WaWqGs7AugXF-4T4Aw&[...]
HTTP/1.1
Host: r6---sn-o097znee.googlevideo.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
Referer: https://s.ytimg.com/yts/swfbin/player-vfloDbVYp/watch_as3.swf
DNT: 1
Connection: keep-alive

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Last-Modified: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 03:53:49 GMT
Content-Type: video/mp4
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 03:37:41 GMT
Expires: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 03:37:41 GMT
Cache-Control: private, max-age=21278
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 4329472
Connection: keep-alive
Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000
x-content-type-options: nosniff
Server: gvs 1.0

Richard Gates
7/27/17
Richard Gates
I verified that I still get 1080p from G+
choprboy 99
7/27/17
choprboy 99
No, they have killed the Flash player and it appears to be deliberate. Flash was working perfectly well... Had multiple windows open with Flash block, able to unblock/play video at up to 1080p without any issues. A couple hours ago, new windows only came up with the HTML5 video player. Existing already opened windows with the flash player continued to load/play the existing video without any issue. Refreshing the window or opening new of the same video results in a HTML5 video player only.

From the Javascript vars in the video play setup:
web_player_disable_flash_watch=true
web_player_flash_fallback_killswitch=true

So deliberately killed the Flash player.

Flash player:
 - Works perfectly at up to 1080p (at least, I usually watch at 720p... your rarely actually seeing anything extra at greater resolution), without issue, on old and new hardware.
 - "Adobe is killing it, it will stop being supported in 2020" - So... it is STILL supported then right? For at least another 2 years plus?
 - Easily blocked in browser, only allowed for certain sites, or blocked/load on demand with browser plugins.
 - Autoplay is easily stopped across ALL sites (and within the same site) with a Flash blocker.

HTML5 player:
 - Absolutely broken, can not play anything other than 360p, claims to "upgrade browser", except the browser has nothing to do with it (appears to be utterly brain dead and possibly blocking based on browser string).
 - Can NOT be blocked in the browser, at least not without completely disabling webm everything.
 - Autoplay can NOT be blocked. Even with media.autoplay.enabled=false, it still is enabled across multiple sites with Javascript injection after the main page loads or browsing to a second page in the same window.


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Recca Engelbert del Rosario
4/9/18
Recca Engelbert del Rosario
the you tube videos can make it about HTML5 codec uneven the videos like created video, but is tru, nothing was happen the You Yube videos can monetized
 
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