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1/12/14
Original Poster
teezecrost

Is it a bug that people in the "invite people" always need to log in to view anything?

Hi there. I installed Google Drive on windows 7 today in order to share a large video with some specific people, and when I set the file to "anyone who has the link can view", the "link to share" works fine; as expected. But anyone on the "invite people" box, the link they're emailed requires them to be logged in. This almost made me give up and uninstall today until I finally tried the URL at the top of the Share Settings screen and was able to send my video link off as expected.
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DAS1951
1/12/14
DAS1951
I think you have answered your own question.
"URL at the top of the Share Settings screen"
Bas Braams
1/12/14
Bas Braams
<<I think you have answered your own question.>> But thank you just the same for the apparent error report!
1/12/14
Original Poster
teezecrost
Yes, but from a usability standpoint, I just wanted to suggest that maybe in the INVITE PEOPLE box, it should say "invite google users" or specify that emails should be gmail addresses. Otherwise you have people like me baffled at why their recipients can't access the file they're trying to share.
To me it wasn't obvious that ONLY the link provided at the top would perform as expected. Which I should say works great and is super convenient once I clued myself in.
I know you guys like users to have a silky experience with all products, so just thought I'd point out an aspect that maybe hadn't been thought of.
Anyway, thanks for listening and responding.
DAS1951
1/12/14
DAS1951
teezecrost, when sending from within the document it should automatically include the right link.

There was what must have beeen a bug, namely that even with the "Anyone with the link" setting and the right URL, the recipients still had to log in.  Some of my recipients had also experienced it.  I thought it had been sorted, but evidently not.  The odd thing is that not everyone seems to see this bug.

My own, not entirely satisfactory, workaround, was to set the document to "Public".
bkennelly
1/12/14
bkennelly
Yes, the email from Drive includes an "invite" parameter that causes the sign-in page to load if the recipient is not signed in.  Removing that parameter allows the link to work, but it is easier to just send the link.  

If you have Gmail, you can insert the Drive link directly from the composer and it will work correctly, even if the recipients do not have Google accounts, so it is an easier way to share your Drive files. 
DAS1951
1/12/14
DAS1951
"f you have Gmail"

No, no Gmail required to operate/participate in GDocs (except in Private setting)!

We need to get this out of the way first.

I have had the sign-in page (for my recipients) even when I sent them a regular email with the correct link pasted in and a doc setting of "Anyone with the link".

There was a point up to which this problem did not arise, but that was quite some time ago.
bkennelly
1/12/14
bkennelly
+DAS1951, please read more carefully.  

I never wrote or implied that Gmail was a requirement for Drive or Docs sharing.  I was only pointing out that, if you do have Gmail enabled, it provides a much better ("silky") sharing experience, especially if the recipients do not have Google accounts.  The link inserted that way does not prompt the recipient to sign in or create an account. 
  
DAS1951
1/12/14
DAS1951
Thanks, and I should have been more explicit: there is no need for a Google account of any sort, not just no Gmail.  This log-in screen should not appear with the correct link.

There should be no difference in silkiness in accessing the document.  No way can you expect/insist on every one of your collaborators to have a Google account or even 'just' Gmail for online collaboration.

It does not make sense to me to make people sign in/sign up when the doc setting is "Anyone with the link".

Having Gmail means you have a Google account, of course.


bkennelly
1/12/14
bkennelly
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:51:52 AM UTC-7, DAS1951 wrote:
Thanks, and I should have been more explicit: there is no need for a Google account of any sort, not just no Gmail.  This log-in screen should not appear with the correct link.

There should be no difference in silkiness in accessing the document.  No way can you expect/insist on every one of your collaborators to have a Google account or even 'just' Gmail for online collaboration.

It does not make sense to me to make people sign in/sign up when the doc setting is "Anyone with the link".

Having Gmail means you have a Google account, of course.

For that matter, having Drive means that you have a Google account, but I think I understand your confusion.  I was not suggesting that the recipients needed Gmail;  I was suggesting that, if the sender uses Gmail, inserting the link that way makes for a better experience for the recipients, especially those who do not have a Google account.
1/12/14
Original Poster
teezecrost
I don't want to extend the discussion any longer than necessary, but just to isolate my concern and alleviate confusion: When I have "anyone with link" set properly, emails sent from my win7 google drive folder via INVITE PEOPLE contain a link that DOES require sign-in.
 
Link copied from email received:
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tHTqP5LnMYanhYSGRPM1dwWTg/edit?usp=sharing&invite=CPG0sokO
 
 
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DAS1951
1/13/14
DAS1951
Yes, I think I understood that, so there is an error or bug in the system.

Whether I insert the URL into a third-party email message or whether I go via "Email collaborators" from within the document it should not make the darndest difference.

And your examples show different links being generated by different methods, confirming what I (and some others) are saying.  It DOES matter how you generate/send the link, and it should not.

And, to clarify, we are not speaking about inserting any document into any message, but sending links to GDocs for the purposes of collaboration.  At least that is how I have understood the issue (and which I have experienced myself via collaborator reports, as mentioned).
I am assuming you just used that Insert File as an example.  And, BTW, the URLs link to a PDF, not a GDoc file, and thus the docs are uneditable anyway.


Just for my amusement I looked at the URLs in the browser address bar (Firefox) in the order you listed the links:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1tPwLKV8aHTWBkSKBSjujfVsEAvuTgAU92iDIBAC39yJwinzGaWQEs55n_C7WZabw0G6elYhbnF0EACps/edit
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1tPwLKV8aHTWBkSKBSjujfVsEAvuTgAU92iDIBAC39yJwinzGaWQEs55n_C7WZabw0G6elYhbnF0EACps/edit
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1tPwLKV8aHTWBkSKBSjujfVsEAvuTgAU92iDIBAC39yJwinzGaWQEs55n_C7WZabw0G6elYhbnF0EACps/edit

All three the same.

And if I click on the blue Share button within the document in all three cases I have to ask the owner for access and state an email address.
NB: I am logged into my Google account so, presumably that is why there is no log-in screen.
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