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12/7/10
Original Poster
moore.bryan

Center Entire Tables?

This should be simple, but I can't seem to find a fix....

I need to center-align an entire table in the "new" Docs; however, I can't seem to figure-out how to do so. I know in the "old" Docs, I would just edit the CSS and HTML and am more and more wondering why that functionality was removed.

Browser & Operating System: Chrome 9.0.597.10 dev on Windows XP Professional
Enterprise Apps or free version of Google Docs: free version
Describe the steps you took that produced this error: not an error
Copy and paste any error messages: N/A



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Gill
12/8/10
Gill
<<and am more and more wondering why that functionality was removed.>> join the club. I can't fathom it out either. (And there was, maybe still is, a bug such that centered text realigned left on printing.)
12/9/10
Original Poster
moore.bryan
So, Gill, any insight into how to center-align tables?
Gill
12/9/10
Gill
Not that I can find at the minute. You may have to cheat and use an outer table with paper-coloured borders and then tweak the width of the first cell to push the second cell (that contains the real table) far enough across to make it look centred. Euch! 

[In practice I use the old docs so I can do it in HTML as you did.]

Google: please fix. There are several things wrong with tables - these come immediately to mind.
(a) hard to choose/highlight the whole table at once
(b) no cell merging
(c) can't set borders to transparent, only to match the background
(d) no attached captions
12/9/10
Original Poster
moore.bryan
Can we still use the "old" version? If so, how?

All four of those points are really easy for Google to implement; I wonder how much time and effort developers are even putting into the "free" version of Docs.
12/9/10
Original Poster
moore.bryan
Never mind... I figured-out how to use the "old" version.

Thanks for the input. Sometimes, it feels like we're writing on a wall no one bothers to pass.
Gill
12/9/10
Gill
<<Sometimes, it feels like we're writing on a wall no one bothers to pass.>> or banging our heads against it!
Aaron Caito
12/16/10
Aaron Caito
Yeah, having a lot of difficulty with aligning tables and managing headers here as well.

I'm an Apps Reseller myself and having more and more trouble using what used to be simple functions - C'mon Google.
editowl
12/16/10
editowl
Just want to add my voice to the chorus.  Being able to align tables would be great.
JohnnyCache
12/17/10
JohnnyCache
Hi folks,
Many thanks for posting -- we really do appreciate the feedback. We're working hard on improving the new documents editor, including tables, so it's very helpful to hear this. Unfortunately, as many of you note, there's no elegant way to center align a table (but, as you know, you can center align the text within the cells of a table).

One workaround would be to place a table within a larger table (giving the parent table invisible borders). But we absolutely understand that this is less than ideal.

Thanks again,
Johnny
Aaron Caito
12/17/10
Aaron Caito
JohnnyCache,

In the interim can we get tables to stop adding a line of padding at the top and bottom of a cell containing another table?

The vertical spacing that we can't remove is pretty frustrating.
12/18/10
Original Poster
moore.bryan
And, as a side-note, I thought I set-up GDocs to use the "old" version, but even when I create new documents, they are the "new" format.

@JohnnyCache: why was the CSS/HTML edit feature removed? This is something that should have never left!
Gill
12/18/10
Gill
Aaron - did you check the Table properties - Cell - padding? Reducing that might help.
Aaron Caito
12/18/10
Aaron Caito
that works for most everything else. but when you put a table inside of a table it puts a full line return above and below that cannot be removed 
Gill
12/18/10
Gill
<<that works for most everything else. but when you put a table inside of a table it puts a full line return above and below that cannot be removed >> Bah! 

Johnny?
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